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OASIS - Don't Believe The Truth   Print  E-mail 
Written by Mark Reed  
Friday, 06 May 2005

You want the truth? You don't want to hear it.

 

Itís not very good. Once upon a time Oasis couldíve been contenders : every song they shit was gold. And then they lost it down the dealers. Theyíve still lost it. Glimpses of genuis flicker through the speakers, but thereís still a sky full of clouds inside their head.

 

But theyíre still a great singles band, right? Wrong. Lyla, one letter away from a  definitive Eric-Clapton clichť, is a castrated version of a Rolling Stones song. And itís a bit shit. Itís a bland song performed passionlessly and when itís over youíve forgotten you ever heard it.

 

Youídíve thought that with four songwriters (one, once the best songwriter in the world, and three others) theyíd make something good. Apparently they started with 66 songs. What happened to them? Did they pick the eleven worst ones and record those?

 

ďDonít Believe The TruthĒ just isnít very good. Itís derivative. It sounds like a second rate pub rock band covering songs from the sixties. ďMucky FingersĒ is The Velvet Underground covering The Beatles. ďLylaĒ is The Stones and Clapton. Itís an identkit list of generic influences. ďPart Of The QueueĒ is The Stranglers biggest hit in a mangler. Thereís probably The Who meets The Byrds, and a boatload of sundrenched faux-psychedlia. Oh well. Better get the son of The Beatles drummer to play drums, in case nobody gets it.

 

For the first time, Oasis have become less than their parts. They wear their influences so transparently on their sleeves that the emporer has no clothes. Sure, Liam still hs one of the best voices in rock, but that doesnít count for shit when heís a Robert DeNiro chewing the bland scenery of the Rocky&Bullwinkle-standard songs.There are however, moments which still shine through a sea of mediocriticy. ďKeep The Dream AliveĒ and ďLet There Be LoveĒ are both undoubted, undisputable Oasis classics. Which is what makes it all the more frustrating : Oasis can still pull the heartstrings and make great records. But ďDonít Believe The TruthĒ is proof that they just donít want to anymore. 

 

Oasis are like your long-standing girlfriend. The one whose changed so much since you met her. You still love her, but itís not because of who she is anymore, but who she was. From time to time flashes of the old Her run before your eyes, and you fall in love again, and as soon as they re-appear they are gone again, possibly forever. You may not want to admit it, but you know itís the truth. Itís not my fault if you donít believe me. 

 

 

Comments
Likening Lyla to Layla is Moronic
Written by Guest on 2005-05-08 20:23:27
To say that "Lyla" is like Clapton simply because a Clapton song was called "Layla" is utterly moronic. The lyrics and music are completely different. Terrible analysis.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-09 13:55:43
Terrible song too.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-09 15:22:47
my god in heaven, a more off-base account could not be possible. without getting overly (and unnecessarily) in-depth let me assure all concerned that DBTT is easily oasis' finest work since WTSMG...perhaps even DEF MAYBE. Influences of course abound...no one in the business is reinventing the wheel here folks. That of course does not include the usual suspects (see radiohead) who continue to produce sounds only knobhead students can bear for more than 20 minutes) Absolutely fine effort and results here. 8.5/10
Written by Guest on 2005-05-09 19:23:02
"me assure all concerned that DBTT is easily oasis' finest work since WTSMG" 
 
no it isn't. it makes "Be Here Now" sound like a masterpiece,
Very good album
Written by Guest on 2005-05-10 09:01:16
Do not agree. To my surprise (I hated "Heathen Chemistry"), I like this album very much.  
"Part of the Queue" and "The Importance of Being Idle" are great.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-10 23:24:08
Most major mags and newspapers are giving DBTT great reviews. This reviewer is in the small minority.
Written by markreed on 2005-05-13 08:38:02
Latte? Mocha? My arse. It's Coffee. I don't like the record, and it's far from a 'classic'. 
 
The Stone Roses, The Holy Bible, Definitely Maybe, 13, Achtung Baby - they're classics. This is crud.  
 
It's a return to form alright, albeit the form of 2002, which was a poor year for them.  
 
*ps. the girlfriend thing. I MADE IT UP!
*rolls eyes*
Written by Guest on 2005-05-15 09:28:40
Dear Null 
 
Fuck Off. And stay Fucked Off. You have no fucking idea about anyone's life, and I would never make any assumptions about you, aside from the fact that you are a prick.  
 
Geez. Where's the common sense brigade?
Take it Easy People!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-15 21:56:15
This is a great album! Everyone bashes Oasis and that is fine but this album is great! "keep the dream alive" is going to be huge with people mark my words. And the more i listen the better every other song is and that is what makes this band so great. OUT
Written by Guest on 2005-05-16 21:38:53
We should just let the record sales prove it. If it's good then the record is really good then...null
*looks above*
Written by Guest on 2005-05-17 06:26:55
*laughs* 
 
jeez, you're not fans - you're fanatics. Oasis are not Gods and they can do wrong. They've proved it with the new CD. What do you expect? An uncritical lovefest? unwarranted, gushing praise?  
 
idiots.
new cd proves
Written by Guest on 2005-05-17 14:25:16
that oasis can still be great. This was very big suprise, but I have to believe, Oasis are back in form. Great return and like all but this review above proves, oasis can go back to right ways again. I am stunned. Oasis did it, althought I was sceptical
UGH!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-17 15:14:40
Oasis are has-beens. Completely agree with the reviewer and many others as well; two good songs and the rest are just mediocre, which does make it more frustrating. The Importance of Being Idle and Guess God Thinks I'm Abel are great, but the rest are just, meh. They can still put out a couple good songs on an album and the rest are just very, very average.
rubbish review
Written by Guest on 2005-05-17 18:41:23
Here are some better reviews. 
 
The Sun - 8/10 
 
Mojo - 4/5* 
 
The Guardian - 5/5* 
 
Q - 4/5 
 
Classic Rock - 8/10 
 
ultimate-guitar.com - 4/5* 
 
adriandenning.co.uk/oasis.html - 7.5/10 
 
*yawn, yawn* heard it all before - Oasis rip off this, steal that...blah, blah, blah. Every band has their influences and you can hear it - it isnt a valid criticism otherwise the only band in the world above criticism would be Radiohead. And no-one wants that!. 
 
It's a class album and this reviewer is in the (insignificant) minority.
idiot
Written by Guest on 2005-05-18 09:38:15
having read a few of this persons reviews, i have come to the conclusion that he: 
a) doesn't seem to like much music 
b) doesn't know anything about music 
c) should stop reviewing music 
d) should get a life 
J
Written by Guest on 2005-05-18 10:19:52
Having now heard the entire album i can safely say this is the best thing oasis have produced in years. I also have to say Lyla is one of the worst tracks on the album and it isnt even that bad. The highlights include "Let there be love" "the importance of being idle" and "love like a bomb." The album is certainly one of the best likely to be out this year and is Oasis' best since Morning Glory. As for Mark Reed...what can i say. You clearly think you are above your station in writing this massively unfair review of a record which you are comparing to two of the best albums since 1994. I would like to draw particular attention to your comment of "But 'Donít Believe The Truth' is proof that they just donít want to anymore." I would like to know how you came to this conclusion as clearly you have not done any sort of research. If you had you would soon realise that Noel Gallagher scrapped all work more than once. This album has been a long and tough process for Oasis who clearly felt they had underperformed on previous occasions and were determined not to let it happen again. Everyone who has passed judgement over this album, most of who have probarbly not even heard the full extent of the finished version, should wait and see if oasis have "still got it" as their future success will prove one way or another. Also Mr. Reed, if you are that disillusioned with your current relationship i suggest you end it now. You may not want to admit it but you have cleary been influenced by those out there who believe Oasis to be no more than beatles "wannabes". I will not take your advice. I will not "believe" what you say. I will not ignore your dismissive and plain ignorant attitude. I will however buy this album as im sure many others will. No matter how many people you try to convince otherwise, the fact of the matter is that Oasis are back and Blur are long gone mate. ( I presume thats where all this anger and hostility have come from).
Mark Read - the gobsh***
Written by Guest on 2005-05-18 10:41:14
The fact that in his review he steals from other reviews I've read about Muckey Fingers "borrowing" the chord progression from "I'm Waiting for the Man" form the Velvet Underground tells me everything. You have the nerve to say' ďMucky FingersĒ is The Velvet Underground covering The Beatles' yet you knicked that bit from some other review....OK they sound similar but they are two COMPLETELY different songs. Mark "GET A LIFE".  
 
This album is quality. Best album of 2005....
Written by markreed on 2005-05-18 11:33:35
My you have all been busy. ad really, that any opinion that isn't uncritical is rubbish by others.  
 
The Beatles influences on the band were obvious from their first single, and openly declared by Noel.  
 
Blur may have gone, but so what? My opinion is based solely on the music and it's place within culture. On the basis of the music on the record, they don't want to make good music anymore, but prefer to reheat other people's ideas and call them their own.  
 
Oh, and the reason i said "Mucky Fingers" sounds like The Velvet Underground covering The Beatles is because that's EXACTLY what it sounds like. I didn't nick that off anyone. Unless you read my comment on the Oasis mailing list where I said exactly the same thing. At which point, I ripped myself off. Somebody sue me.  
 
I haven't read any other reviews of the album, by the way. Our job here is to give you OUR opinion, and nobody else's.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-18 17:45:31
I hope somebody bloody well does sue you. Your comment that Oasis "do not want" to make good music anymore is outrageous and you yourself must admit that it is wrong. You cannot dismiss an album as bad because you feel the artists have not made an effort which is clearly not the case anyway. It is comments like that that seperate someone who is bias in the subject and clearly bears a grudge of some sort to a neutral.
Written by markreed on 2005-05-18 18:22:53
You're talking horseshit.  
 
I have no grudge against Oasis and can't sabotage their career anymore than they already have. The simple facts are that it is not a very good record, and thus, if they release a record that isn't very good, then they must therefore, be happy to make records that aren't very good.  
 
The record is easily the worst Oasis album, by any standard. Claiming I have a grudge, or whining that someone doesn't agree with your opinions, or slinging personal abuse and lies, is never going to make me, or anyone, change their mind.  
 
If anything I am biased in their favour, on the grounds that they have made, in the past some very good records, so I have given them more credit than this record deserves. If this record had arrived from a new band it would undoubtedly sink without a trace.  
When June 5th comes around...
Written by Guest on 2005-05-18 19:30:08
NO NO NO. You have claimed that they make "bad records" for fun or to get some sort of amusement. Why do you persist to argue this. You write reviews that you cannot possibly substanciate as they have no substance. This album will get to no1 and will contain several no1 singles. You even said yourself there are some classics on here...they can effortlessly write classics??? Well im sure if it was that easy for Noel then they'd have a new album out every year. You are the one slinging lies, im sure if u grew some balls that Noel Gallagher would happily rip them right off you if he ever saw some of this garbage that you have writtin. I am arguing the point "Oasis do not want to make good music. "slinging personal abuse and lies." I'm pretty sure that was you not me (until this as im fully aware that the balls comment is abuse but it is most definately not a lie). This record is the best album out by any band this year by some distance. I will happily debate this comment with you for as long as it takes to get my point across however i v much doubt anybody will support your view that Oasis "dont want to make good records anymore".
Written by markreed on 2005-05-18 19:38:40
It isn't a good record, but a dull, derivative, unimaginative album that if it didn't have the words "Oasis" on the cover would sell a pitiful amount and be in remainder bins for years to come. Noel has made some great records (and written some great songs, two of which are on this record), but this is not one of those great records, and two songs are not enough to make a dreadful album anything less than not very good.  
 
I persist in arguing that "Don't Believe The Truth" isn't very good for all the reasons I have mentioned above, and they seem true to me.  
 
I've got far more balls than you have, for I dare to offer an opinion that isn't sycophantic, uncritical adoration.
Awesome
Written by Guest on 2005-05-18 22:41:45
Who gives a rats coolo what the reviewer wrote, This album is too good to be mentioned by a hack. For all of those who like the album, enjoy and be glad that there are yoyos who don't like it cos it makes the album that much more of a pleasure to listen to. Oasis are gonna live forever.
Stupid reviewer!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-19 00:24:17
To the punk who wrote this review, go shit the bed, you motherfucker!!!!!! :upset
Ha!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-19 02:04:08
Like anyone gives a rats ass what any of you think. Nice to see some brotherly love for the reviewer.  
 
If you want your comments to be taken seriously it's probably best to type something smarter than SUCK MY DICK AND SHIT THE BED.,, FAG MOTHERFUCKER, OASIS ROOOOOLS! cos you sound like the dicks you undoubtedly are.  
 
Hack? Would you prefer to write the review? Can I guess what I says? "OASIS RAWK AND SUCK MY DICK PUSSY IF U FINK OTHERWISE"
Written by Guest on 2005-05-19 10:43:36
Seriously man...get a life
very good
Written by Guest on 2005-05-19 18:22:19
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Oasis are always going to be picked apart because they pretty much achieved perfection with their first album. i think the way the review is worded tends to show a lack of respect, Claiming that "once upon a time Oasis could`ve have been contenders" is piss poor. They were not only contenders but champs. I think you know this mark because you have already stated that "one has the best voices in Rock" and noel "Was the best songwriter in the world".......Thats some combo. And still is. Listen to the album again but this time remove your head from ya arse. you might be able to hear it better.
Written by markreed on 2005-05-19 19:10:34
Now that's what I'm talking about! More fun to read than the abuse anyway. The line about contenders is from a Marlon Brando movie by the way.  
 
Mark
Written by Guest on 2005-05-20 04:47:35
Everybody is entitled to their opinions! But I personally think this record is the best thing since wtsmg and there are definitely 4 or 5 oasis classics on the album. Yes they may have obviously nicked sounds and styles from influential bands, but is that really a bad thing. I think that was the reason for the dip in form around the time of sotsog and even that dip wasn't massive as there were great songs on both the last two albums. But there is no doubt that the lads have returned with their best material for a long time. The album will be number one and I would think that it'll be one of the best albums this year. Perhaps only rivaled by the coldplay album.
Baz
Written by Guest on 2005-05-20 10:30:43
Had the songs for a week or so now and bar 1 or 2 songs i think this album teriffic. Its rare that I find an album where i enjoy more than about 5 songs and this has acheieved it. "Mucky fingers" is about the worst thing on there but "Let there Be Love" is awesome and there are very good songs throughout. Good on ya Oasis for producing a 3rd great album.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-20 11:02:18
Has anyone listened to the words for "A Bell Will Ring". Good stuff which is seems to be quite relevant to the new album. 
 
A little space, 
A little time, 
Seen what it can do. 
 
A little faith, 
Peace of mind,* 
See what passes through. 
Oh God no - Paul
Written by Guest on 2005-05-20 15:30:13
Hey trust me i wanted this to be the best thing since Definately Maybe, that's what Noel himself has said. 
 
It's not. 
 
It's dreadful. 
 
I've seen people give "the importance" 10/10, no fucking way. 
 
This album will be long forgotten a week after release, and all this is from a complete Oasis fan.  
 
Believe the truth, their best work was 10 years ago.
Baz
Written by Guest on 2005-05-20 18:22:54
Their music has taken a new turn which is different, u like it or u dont. Not as good as their best work but i still think its great. Also plz can people stop using the album title in puns as theyve been done to death and then some.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-21 11:58:27
People say Oasis nick music from other bands? If its that easy why dont dont you do it and you sell a million albums in a week. Noels a gr8 songwriter who draws heavily on his influences and the result is Oasis - no other bands albums are as heavily anticipated as Oasis'. People gives such bad reviews because they somehow expect an album full of immediate classics like "Wats the Story...", but if you want to hear that album, go and listen to it, but dont slag off their new album because its different. There are some really gr8 songs on this album, Let There Be Love, Part Of the Queue, Love Like a Bomb, Keep The Dream Alive are the highlights for me, and the rest of the songs are pretty good aswell. Great album. It'll go number 1.
WTF!!!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-21 18:53:36
THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME - OASIS ROCK AND ARE THE BEST BAND OF ALLTIME!
some 1 who has not a clue
Written by Guest on 2005-05-22 00:19:14
lisen mate, ur review is shite, the way you desribe it is shite, your metaphors are shite, ur a shite writer. I have not even got started on the whole wearing your influences on you sleave , ever lisen to muddy waters and then the rolling stones........chuck berry then john lennon, and thats just the start, to make music you have to be inspired and influenced , otherwise music would not exsit . all the greats wear their influences on their sleave thats why they are great. Oasis like many have made a few shit records, but like most shit writers and reviews you pick out the easy targets . so shut the fuck up and do your home work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
some1 who can't spell...
Written by Guest on 2005-05-22 09:18:54
But great artists don't sound like other people, they sound like themselves.  
 
oh, and you can't spell, you idiotic prick.
PURE GENIUS
Written by Guest on 2005-05-22 10:59:09
SUPERSONIC. WHATEVER. LIVE FOREVER. SLIDE AWAY . DONT LOOK BACK IN ANGER. STAND BY ME . THE MASTERPLAN. STOP CRYING YOUR HEART OUT. AQUIESCE. DONT GO AWAY. ALL AROUND THE WORLD. GAS PANIC. LETS ALL MAKE BELIEVE. MORNING GLORY. I COULD GO ON 4EVA
Written by Guest on 2005-05-22 16:49:40
Hang on, didn't "Whatever" get Noel taken to court for it's surprising similarity to "How Sweet To Be An Idiot" by The Rutles?
oasis
Written by Guest on 2005-05-22 17:43:42
I haven't heard the album, but I never really liked oasis ... I never saw what the fuss was all about. 
Is it cos they go well with British football culture?  
Excuse my ignorance (but at least I can spell) 
Black Americans are generally much more impressive and passionate music acts. I am white English, but trying my damndest to change colour and nationality so that my guitar playing becomes a bit more Jimi Hendrix. Oasis music is like the Beatles, isn't it? Which, I admit, was good 45 years ago. O well, I suppose I am alone.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-22 20:17:22
Listen mate i know people like who who want to be black. They are tossers. Much more passionate. You think Oasis dont put passion into their music? Oh yeah cos 50 cent puts loads of passion into his performances doesnt he or is his bullshit endless droning on and on some form of masterpiece i just havnt picked up on. Slag Oasis but dont for one second doubt their passion.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-22 20:18:22
Also Oasis are no1 in the charts...anybody want to debate. Would the reviewer like to take his head out of his ass and read that.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-22 21:46:19
number one doesn't mean they're the best. have you seen the rubbish that makes number one these days?
What does it mean?
Written by Guest on 2005-05-23 12:12:12
What does it mean when "Don't believe the truth" gets high ratings from EVERYONE ON EARTH but you? IT MEANS YOU'RE A MORON AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!! Or, you didn't properly review the album. Either way, you should be shit-canned. 
 
You suck.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-23 16:10:22
Pathetic. since when did the popular vote mean it was automatically good? Plenty of people have slammed the album. You just haven't noticed. I've seen plenty of bad reviews here in the UK, and they're not wrong.  
 
If people believed popular opinion and neve had a dissenting opinion, we'd still believe the world is flat.
opinion
Written by Guest on 2005-05-23 21:38:54
dont you think the great hing about music is that its purely down to the individual what he likes and does not like, do if someone has an opinion the onloy person who can change that his him or her so why all the debate
I've concluded
Written by Guest on 2005-05-24 13:22:54
Although the album is certainly no Definitely Maybe or Morning Glory, it's certainly a true return to form. The reviewer is merely a troll, I've concluded.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-24 15:44:49
Oasis are the fuckin nuts. best band in the last decade. This is going to be a very important album for years to come. 
Fuck off to people who dont like oasis. 
twats
CAN PEOPLE STOP KNOCKING THIS ALBUM!!!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-25 00:48:52
If the main stream music wasn't a load of trash maybe Mark Reed would've noticed that Don't Believe The Truth is an album that is in the same league as Sgt. Peppers and Highway 61, it is SIMPLY AMAZING. Mark if you are to thick to see the implications of this album than you don't even deserve the right to post a review on it. How can you say that Lyla, The Importance Of Being Idle and Let There Be Love are examples of Noel copying? There is only ONE song on the album that sounds remotly copied and this Mucky Fingers but for gods sake, the Beatles openly admited and Paul still admits that they were the biggest copiers around at the time and they knicked guitar and bass riffs/lines, lyrics, drum patterns and all kinds of stuff. Yet the Beatles are the most influential band of all time. AND RIGHTLY SO. WHo cares if they copied a tiny bit on ONE song, the album is briliant! 
Five stars.
Learn to spell
Written by Guest on 2005-05-25 07:24:01
"'Lyla' is The Stones and Clapton". 
The Stones maybe but sounds nothing like Clapton apart from the title. I've heard the album and I think Oasis have moved on from their "Brit Pop/Rock" days.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-25 07:34:13
Yeah mate you ever heard of english! Could'nt quite make out what you are trying to say but I get the impression you didnt like the album (sarcasm). Your a dick head you know that dont you! From what Ive heard the album is going to be something different but still very good. I love that 60s sound they got. Music was awesome then and so going way is a good thing.  
 
And "oasis are like the long-standing girlfriend", what the hell are you on! Just coz their music has changed doesnt mean they have, They are still the definitive rock n roll band. Thats why I loved them back in the britpop days and thats why I love them now! They still have the same values, principles, protests etc. They are still cool! If anything has changed its you. And before you go slagging something off completely I suggest you write an album and see how good it is. 
 
To be frank Im surprised you ever had a girlfriend let alone a long standing one. Your abit like the ex girlfriend, a twat!
clever
Written by Guest on 2005-05-25 13:18:18
every baqnd gets the fans it's deserves, and most Oasis fans seem to be dickheads on the basis of their comments here.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-25 18:57:02
Who do u like...blazin' squad??? Or are you another fan gutted that their fave band like Steps died out a long time ago...wanker
Go look at his other reviews
Written by Guest on 2005-05-26 09:49:16
Just been mulling around the board - and guys, don't sweat this guy's opinion too much. He doesn't seem to care for music at all, or if he does, only reviews albums he doesn't like.
MEGA
Written by Guest on 2005-05-26 16:03:41
Fuckin album is solid can't get enough of it. Can't wait to hear it again. The reviewer is entiled to his own opinion I guess but I hope it wasn;t written to jump on the band wagon of ppl who have slagged them off post morning glory era, esp the fans. A couple of my buddies were huge oasis fans but now everytime a new oasis album comes out they slag it after only half a listen. Why? cos it's hip to slag Oasis now. But this album will change that and I suspect alot of ppl will jump back on the band wagon. A good example of this is that friend of mine who cuts up oasis said to me the other day, that Mucky Fingers and TIOBI are Oasis's best songs in the last 10 yrs. go figure. I've listened to the new doves album, I;ve listened to the hyped Bravery album, I've listened to the razorlights, Nic Armstrong, Embrace, etc etc etc, none come close to the DBTT. I await x&y, i think that album will be up there with DBTT
Written by Guest on 2005-05-27 02:34:58
I'm a huge Oasis fan...and even though it's not a classic, anthemic album, it's still very very good.  
 
After the first listen, you'd feel disappointed. But it really grows on you, and you find yourself singing songs you'd swear you'd never heard before. 
 
"Turn Up The Sun" and "Keep The Dream Alive" seem to be the outstanding tracks on the album, whereas the rest are consistently good. Except perhaps "Mucky Fingers", which i can't really stand.  
 
A 4/5 album, no sweat.
TWAt
Written by Guest on 2005-05-27 04:12:26
if this reviewer can critisize oasis and say that "dont belive the truth" is rubbish then lets see him write an album as good as it
Gabriel Greece
Written by Guest on 2005-05-27 06:56:01
Just heard this album for the first time. Up until now I've never really rated Oasis at all. The first 2 albums were pretty good and the rest after that were dreadful. However, I was totally shocked when I listened to DBTT. The oasis sound is still there on some songs such as lyla, but the rest seem a world apart. I have to be honest and I've never said this about them before, I really really like this album. I think TIOBI is fantastic, in fact most of the album is. Nice one
Gabriel Greece
Written by Guest on 2005-05-27 07:04:05
Just heard this album for the first time. Up until now I've never really rated Oasis at all. The first 2 albums were pretty good and the rest after that were dreadful. However, I was totally shocked when I listened to DBTT. The oasis sound is still there on some songs such as lyla, but the rest seem a world apart. I have to be honest and I've never said this about them before, I really really like this album. I think TIOBI is fantastic, in fact most of the album is. Nice one
Written by Guest on 2005-05-27 07:24:46
I've had a look around too. The guy review stuff he both likes and dislikes. But you can't say he doesn't care or is a JohnnyComeLately, there's an Oasis concert from 97 reviewed in there somewhere.
random=bananas
Written by Guest on 2005-05-27 07:29:11
fuck shit bollocks...opps...sorry, i just spent a weekend in manchester - swearing and stupidity seem to be infectious. my mum will never forgive me for such language. oh aye, oasis relaesed an album didn't they? anyone actually bothered listening to it? if someone can send me the two 'classics' on mp3 or something so i don't have to sit through the rest of the tripe i might listen to them. on second thoughts, i'm sure they'll be played to death on the radio so don't bother. PS. is lyla the worst video ever made (except for that pixies slow-mo one?) PPS. getting to number 1 proves nothing - crazy frog anyone?!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-27 09:20:23
Lyla is the worst track on the album, and the only reason i can guess they released it is because of it's pop nature and upbeat sound. 
 
The darker side of Oasis is where they typically shine.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-27 10:35:24
The new album is quality! Oasis are still the best rock n roll group Britian has produced in years. People who are claiming its shit are probably all wet Keane and coldplay fans, who wouldnt know a decent rock n roll track if it kicked them in the bollocks. Fair enough if u dont like it but whose put something out better this year?
Written by Guest on 2005-05-28 04:41:03
No, sorry, it's not quality. It sounds tired, unoriginal, plodding and dull. Have to agree with the poor reviewer everyone has bashed. I love(d) Oasis too, but this is disappointing - I've got the same feeling as when I listended to Heathen Chemistry. Where's the buzz you got the first time you heard Supersonic and Wonderwall? The magic has long gone. As for who has released better albums this year? Bloc Party, British Sea Power, Doves - there's originality for you. Right where's my eBay login details...
form your own opinions you pretentious t
Written by Guest on 2005-05-28 21:40:33
I get the impression the people who are slaggin off the new album listen with their heads before their ears. It seems uncool to like oasis at the moment, probably because they've been around for a few years (people seem to be scared to admit they like bands from earlier than five years ago for fear of not being in agreement with the writers from music magazines), and these arty farty student types would sooner listen to a miserable dirge such as radiohead, or the latest band, soon to disappear without trace, to keep up their self image as scenesters. for gods sake, form ur own opinions rather than taking other peoples pretentitous, over analytical, dull comments, and boring me by pasting it all together in ur own so called "review". 
music doesn't have to be meaningful to be great either. if the songs have meaningful lyrics, great, but i prefer to listen to the song first rather than the writers pretentious political agenda behind it... and originality doesn't necessitate that an album is good either. i very much doubt bloc party, british sea power, or doves would be getting mentioned by the guy above if they weren't given good reviews by the music press.  
the writer of this review never responds to anyone elses comments, other than to repeat what he's already said "no it's shit, don't like it, rip off merchants etc etc" if you cant think of anything new to support your arguments (sorry, the re hashed arguments of some geek of a reviewer who's actually taken the time to listen to every kitche unpopular underground album ever made and draw comparisons) or to respond to other peoples, then don't bother, it's dull.  
Written by Guest on 2005-05-29 03:40:45
I wasn't trying to be cool and slag off Oasis because it's fashionable to do so. It's called an opinion. That's when you listen to the album and say whether you like it or not and why. For your information, I have two Oasis tickets for their tour in July and still intend to go and see them. You can still like a band for what they have done in the past despite the fact you don't like their new material. I'm not that fickle and one of the supposed people now criticising them because I'm too scared to admit I still like them. 
I think the situation is quite the reverse - there seems to be too many loyal Oasis fans who are listening with their heads instead of their ears, including some of the press. They seem too scared to admit that this new album isn't great and that Oasis aren't the amazing band they used to be. But that's OK too! It shouldn't be about whether it's cool to dislike a band just because they're five years old. It's very simple - in my humble opinion as a big Oasis fan, the album just isn't worthy of my hard-earned cash. Sorry. 
As for being accused of only listening to what the music press say is good - nope, would have bought those albums anyway and still liked them. Because they are good albums...
Written by markreed on 2005-05-29 08:27:45
I listened to the album with my ears, not my head. My ears told me it wasn't very good. My head said that maybe I should give it a second chance, I did, and it's still not very good.  
 
If you noticed who we review here it is almost always bands that have been around for longer than five years and get overlooked by ambulance-chasing 'trendsetters'.  
 
Every word of that review is mine and mine alone. I haven't even read any other reviews by anyone else. If they slag off the album then that probably means that I'm not the only person who thinks the new album is rubbish.  
 
If you think my explanations about why I don't like that that means one thing : I'm consistent. The reasons I think it's rubbish are the same reasons I always did. No flip-flopping here.  
 
And what's wrong with being artsy-fartsy? Better than being Scared Of Intelligence.
Dont belive the reviewer
Written by Guest on 2005-05-29 15:27:49
What album were you listen to reveiwer...... i agree with the above get a new job..... in fact im starting a pertition to get you sacked..... all those in favour say "REVIEWER OUT"
Ha. Fucking Wankers.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-29 19:07:37
Knob Jockey? S-Club? You really are Apes In Shoes most of you, gleefully sucking the Oasis cock of stale reheated bullshit and thinking anyone who disagrees is a Gay Fag Cocksmoker. Like being called 'Gay' is an insult anyway.  
 
What the fuck's a pertition, or an opion? LEARN TO SPELL. Oasis love dumb cunts like you, you'll buy whatever lazy talentless shit they stick out, and pay for the privilege. And if you don't like the review, so what? Fuck off and tell yer mates if you have any how someone you don't agree with is a prick.  
 
The record sucks, and it's sad to see people pretending it doesn't.
Nice album
Written by Guest on 2005-05-30 18:25:51
I agree and disagree, hate and i love, i like and i dislike, but i think this album is good in terms of freshness OASIS needed over the years. Gem and Andy did bring alot to the new album, but i dont like Zaks drumming , too simplistic and dull. 4/5
Written by Guest on 2005-05-30 20:07:37
i just finished my second listen to the album. My first reaction was that it reminded me of Heathen Chemistry in the sense that I liked a few songs and disliked a majority of them. After my second listen....I enjoyed it much more. It isn't a "Morning Glory," and it doesn't come close. In my opinon, every song on "Morning Glory" is a masterpiece. This album is definatly there best in a lot of years. "Let there be Love" really shows that Noel can still write a masterpiece, and so does "Keep The Dream Alive." Both are incredibly written songs. Other highlights include "Turn Up the Sun,"  
"TIOBI" and I happen to like "Guess God thinks I'm Able." 5 great songs on an ablum...that to me is a huge sucess.  
 
So take my advice, and if you can, listen to the album more than once.
Your Not very bright are you?
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 04:12:23
its kinda funny to see someone like you judge the finest rock band in the world, could you ever write a song like that? could you ever gain and sell millions of records?? then shut your hole you fukin idiot!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 04:13:22
I wish I could kill you
dickweeds
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 05:10:02
you want to kill the reviewer? man, retards would sue you for giving them a bad name.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 07:19:43
Oasis Rocks!!!!! and thats all man...
DamoC69
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 07:21:33
Oh dont worry its just an opinion - I heard album and its a classic - To Me! 
If this was a debut ambum from a new band it would be hailed as awesome - but people are hellbent on comparing it to their first 2 albums!! They were classic albums and will never be betterd by Oasis the same as U2 wil never beat joshua tree, and Radiohead will never beat OK Computer Computer!!!!
Oh God U2 beat The Joshua Tree
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 09:01:18
have you heard Achtung Baby?
American fan
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 15:07:33
It feels like I am one of the last American fans of Oasis, and after 4 years of work this is terrible, this cd has 3 or 4 good songs...or i'll give them this...for everygood song there is a worse song...i've loved every song oasis has ever made...no joke...i've got everysong they've played including all b-sides...but this is bad...i hope they have a cd ready before the end of next year or this could be the curtain closing...every cd has been good but this is terrible. late.
ANOTHER AMERICAN FAN LIVING IN AMERICA
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 15:33:55
Everyone's entitled to their opinon, but in my eyes 3-4 good songs is a good album....a lot of people today don't realize how difficult it is to write 4 good songs. 
 
No DEF MAYBE or MORNING GLORY, but if any other band were to make this album, people would love it. Its annoying to see the high standards people are putting on the album 'cause its Oasis.
an angry slagging session?
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 16:16:23
oh boy. This album even has songs he likes. I dread to think what he'd do to The Strokes.
THIS REVIEW IS BOLLOCKS!!!
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 18:06:22
lol i cant believe that this site trys to be serious!!! DBTT is fukin great, to say its crap is wrong, to say its not in your taste is opinion. this album is up there with oasis's best work, fuck this site. :grin
Question
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 19:08:06
Can the reviewer pls share with us the albums u think are solid. just curious.
Written by Guest on 2005-05-31 22:39:42
Quote: 
"Oasis are like your long-standing girlfriend. The one whose changed so much since you met her. You still love her, but itís not because of who she is anymore, but who she was. From time to time flashes of the old Her run before your eyes, and you fall in love again, and as soon as they re-appear they are gone again, possibly forever. You may not want to admit it, but you know itís the truth. Itís not my fault if you donít believe me." 
 
That hit me, big time... It may well be the truth....damn those good memories!!!! damn um all. :sigh
Nice one
Written by Guest on 2005-06-01 04:56:50
Don't Believe The Truth 
 
the review makes sense as a play on the album title 
 
well done mark
You're hilarious.
Written by Guest on 2005-06-01 08:13:32
This is the only bad review I've read of the album. I won't believe it then. Ha ha ha!!
Good review
Written by Guest on 2005-06-01 09:01:15
I think the reviewer is spot on. Oasis do seem to have lost it. They do seem to have alot of fans who will stand by them no matter what they churn out though.
Calm Down
Written by Guest on 2005-06-01 11:33:55
We all have our opinions I've had the album for three days, and as an Oasis fan since there first appearance on the Tube I optimisically awaited this release.Without getting to deep in my opinion DBTT contains two instantly awesome tracks Let there be love and Keep the dream alive. Turn up the sun, the importance of being idle, guess god thinks i'm able and part of the queue are all worthy of the Oasis name the rest are instantly forgettable but thats just my opinion listen and make up your own mind you dont have to be a sheep. I think six enjoyable tracks out of eleven tracks is worthy of my hard earned money. 7/10
I THINK ITS GREAT
Written by Guest on 2005-06-01 13:09:42
turn up the sun, let there be love, Importance of being idle are really great songs, I think they are back with some really good music, after Heaten Chemistry... DBTT is thier best album since WTSMG!
albums i think are solid -- in no partic
Written by markreed on 2005-06-01 14:00:37
U2 "Achtung Baby" 
New Order "Technique" 
Radiohead "Ok Computer" 
Alabama 3 "Exile On Coldharbour Lane" 
Franz Ferdinand "Franz Ferdinand" 
REM "New Adventures In Hi Fi" 
Kraftwerk "Man Machine" 
Faith No More "Angel Dust" 
Oasis "Morning Glory" 
Metallica "Metallica" 
Morrissey "Your Arsenal" 
 
hope that helps.  
rossy b
Written by Guest on 2005-06-01 16:46:26
alot of magazine reviews state that "let there be love" is the only song on the album that wouldnt make it as a classic on either 'definately maybe' or 'morning glory'. thats bolloks not one song on the hole album is bad, the bands had quite a while since their last album 'heathen chemistry' to think about the songs invloved and a good job they've done in putting it together. (ultimately the best band ever) :p
WHAT
Written by Guest on 2005-06-01 20:17:09
wheres Definitely Maybe on that list? u r putting morning glory over Definitely Maybe? dude, morning glory was prob the more commercially successful album worlwide but Definitely Maybe is by far better than Morning Glory. i guess it;s a matter of opinion JUST LIKE FOR THOSE WHO LIKE DBTT. So though u don;t like DBTT, it doesn;t mean it;s a bad album. since when were u the authority in judging albums or any reviewer for that matter?
Written by markreed on 2005-06-02 05:49:28
well see, thats the point. it's just an opinion.  
 
Morning Glory doesn't have "Digsy Dinner" or "Bring It On Down", and thus, I think it's better album because I think those two songs are a bit average. Also the whole "Morning Glory" package is better : better production, better drumming, and better sequencing of songs makes it a much better record.
great album
Written by Guest on 2005-06-02 06:46:52
Slow to start with but this Oasis album is definately a slow burner. It gets into you litle by little (no pun intended). Hope they can be arsed in concert.
Bring it on Down
Written by Guest on 2005-06-02 11:50:09
Bring it on Down is an amazing tune. I am glad to hear they r playing it on this tour. pure ass punk tune.
Reviewer....dont re-view
Written by Guest on 2005-06-03 01:52:51
A reviewer gives his personal but objective analysis of a record...although personally i found the "review" to be strongly peppered with derogative comments...which speak of a bias...no one is "shit"..or no objective reviewer brings his "girlfriend concepts" into a review....pretty bad taste and class...personal views about a girlfriend might be reflective of the individuals attitude...especially if she has been so gracious to be "longstanding" to an individual who views her as such... 
Written by Guest on 2005-06-03 13:52:00
Music is not to analyze, but to listen and enjoy it
Mark Reed
Written by Guest on 2005-06-05 17:14:53
Urm...does anyone else think that last post came from the dumbest person ever?
Written by markreed on 2005-06-05 20:41:42
er, I didn't post that.  
 
And no, I have no CD's that has anything by Sting or Phil Collins in any capacity at all. I think I have "Dune" with Sting in it on DVD somewhere, but that is rubbish too.
Who cares?
Written by Guest on 2005-06-05 21:12:03
Oasis's music makes me and millions others feel good and that's the bottom line.
Written by Guest on 2005-06-06 12:35:41
all u oasis bashers really need to get a life. Why would u waste your time cutting up Oasis if u dont like them? I hate tons of bands but i have better things do to with my life than go on message boards and slag them. PPL like u make my life fuckin awesome
CuNtO
Written by Guest on 2005-06-10 01:02:06
ere' i rate this album track by track of DBTT 
Turn Up The Sun 8/10 
Mucky Fingers 7.5/10 
Lyla 8.9/10 
Love Like A Bomb 7/10 
The Importance Of Being Idle 10/10 
The Meaning Of Soul 6.5/10 
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel 9/10 
Part Of The Queue 7.2/10 
Keep The Dream Alive 9.2/10 
A Bell Will Ring 7.4/10 
Let There Be Love 9.9/10 
 
Now then How Do U Rate Yours... Hope some of u cunts agree with me there.. I Rate This Album 8/10 
 
 
 
:roll :roll :roll
jesus says..
Written by Guest on 2005-06-15 13:10:53
... and what further proof do i need? give 'em enough rope ...
john hogarth
Written by Guest on 2005-06-18 16:58:59
shite album

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